Some time ago the gauntlet was thrown down. In responding to "Common People - Mean and Mocking OR a British Blue Collar Anthem?" Jefe feels that the fact that he has so far been uncontested means that he has finally won the argument. Somebody please tell him why he's wrong.
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ReplyDeleteI think the whole "dance, and drink, and screw" reference is referring to the limited opportunities afforded the working class in all aspects of life. I don't think it was a mockery at all. Jarvis came from a working class upbringing in the old industrial town of Sheffield. He had grown up seeing a whole class of people whom weren't in any position to be upwardly mobile. There's a certain point at which many people do give up and say all right this is what is open to me, this is what I can do. And they accept it. I think Cocker speaks from first hand experience. I find it less mockery than snapshot, but what does a spoiled brat like myself know?
ReplyDeleteI must say I agree with Tom. Jarvis can speak from a certain amount of experience. And, you know, dancing, drinking, and screwing ain't so bad. What else IS there to do? Ballet?
ReplyDeleteBallet!!
ReplyDeleteWasn't Joe Cocker Jarvis' babysitter? Not exactly a "working class" baby sitter.
ReplyDeleteI'm in agreement with all of the above . . . then again, I was part of the initial argument.
ReplyDeleteAnyone get Jarvis' new album? What'd ya think? I did and would say it's alright - but it's no Pulp.
I have to say I was rather disappointed with the album. What kind of chorus is "fat children ruined my life"?
ReplyDeleteThat sounds like a great chorus to me. I'll have to take a listen to that album.
ReplyDeleteAdam, have you heard Of Montreal's new ep? It's quite fun.
Kev and Geoff - the Innocence Mission has a new one out. It got at least a few good reviews, but I haven't heard it yet.
ReplyDeleteAdam - I agree, though I went biking with the Jarvis album a few days ago and it really hit the spot while I was riding. At one point, a cat ran ahead, directly in front of me, for about a hundred yards or so. I don't think I've ever seen a cat run such a distance in a straight line. I thought of you for some reason. Seemed like something you would tell us all about . . . back in the day.
"That song is funny. It's making fun of poor people, not the rich." was the argument, I believe. To which we responded, ". . .[pause]. . .are you kidding?" if I recall.
ReplyDeleteThat's how I recall it.
ReplyDeleteNo, Tom, I haven't heard OFMon's new EP, all I have to listen to is the 4 track stuff that you played a little of for me.
ReplyDeleteThat's great, Ryan, about the cat. It does sound like something that would impress me. I still remember one night when you, me, and Tom were walking from Tom's apartment at night. We were walking toward campus on the 1500 block of Grove and out of nowhere two cats leaped at each other claws flying. It looked like in a cartoon where there's a fight and it's just a cloud with claws and stars spiking out from it.
Oh, and the Jarvis album. The second song is such a shameless theft from Crimson & Clover that might otherwise tickle me, but makes me mad for some reason. Remember visiting Sukh Deep with Tom on Meadow St. one sticky day in the summer of '95? Tom had Crimson & Clover on in his car when we pulled up. It was the first time I really appreciated that song and it seemed to speak perfectly of summer.